… This may mean that Trojans were Greeks or Hellenized Anatolians. The Trojans were on an Island in Turkey near the Dardanelles, although we can't be sure if they were actually Turkish. According to the Roman epic poet Virgil, the Trojans were defeated after the Greeks left behind a large wooden horse and pretended to sail for home. Priam King of Troy. 18. share . Although many Trojans were suspicious of the gift, a Greek spy managed to infiltrate and convinced them to keep the horse. Homer made the Achaeans the main characters, as he himself was a proud Greek, but you can tell that even he was full of sympathy for the Trojans. The City Falls And The Trojan War Ends. 15/12/2017 at 06:10 #78900. He also mentions that the Trojans spoke different languages from some of their allies, and he refers to the Achaeans as subjects of the Greeks (something that might mean that Trojans could be also Greeks). The war between both countries was as a result of Paris (Prince of Trojan, The brother of Hector and the son of Priam the king of Trojan) who collected Menelaus (The brother of Agamemnon) wife, Helen (The most beautiful woman in Greek… One epic war. … Unbeknown to the Trojans, the wooden horse was filled with Greek warriors. I don’t know how far back those settlements dates, but it wouldn’t be unreasonable for Greek-speakers to be there during the Mycenaen period. They weren't Greeks, but other than Trojans, I'm not sure what they called themselves or were … They were all the same . Interestingly the name of one king known from a treaty was Alakšandu, which obviously was the Greek name Alexandros. In utter confusion, as they struggled out, putting on their armor, they were met by Greeks who cut them down. Some Archaeologists 3 thought that the settlers of Troy were one of the tribes of the Mycenaeans, who created colonies in the east Mediterranean and in Asia Minor 4 and developed the first Greek culture in Hellas. The Troy … Report Save. From what I recall, in the Iliad translations the Greeks are known as Hellenes and/or Achaeans, while the Trojans are known as… Trojans, and the city could also be referred as Ilion. There was a bit of an ethnic mix, since the dominant precolonial group in the area was Phrygians, with an admixture of Lelegians and perhaps some Mysians, but as I say the colonists were Greek. Hi, Paskal, I’m not adamant that the Trojans … Hector and Astyanax were killed, Troy destroyed, and (at the end of the Trojan War) Andromache was taken as a war bride, by Neoptolemus, son of Achilles, to whom she bore Amphialus, Molossus, Pielus, and Pergamus. After much debate (and unheeded warnings by Priam’s daughter Cassandra), the Trojans pulled the mysterious gift into the city. When Menelaus demanded her return, the Trojans refused. They were a peaceful civilization, until the Greeks came and attacked them, and demanding their land. Hector Prince of Troy. Probably … This area is also called Asia Minor. They were a prosperous local superpower, while the Greeks were a military alliance. This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Paskal. Les Troyens (in English: The Trojans) is a French grand opera in five acts by Hector Berlioz. But somebody new to the subject would also be able to pick up this book and enjoy the read, and certainly learn a lot from it. The Greek historian … But the phrase "taking revenge of Hector" is sometimes symbolically used after major East-West clashes. Most likely then the Trojans were Anatolian - no more Greek than Hittite - just the original indigenous native Anatolians. Deleted User. Some of our knowledge about them come from their neighbors, notably the Hittites. Trojan Characters … The strife began after the Trojan prince Paris abducted Helen , wife of Menelaus of Sparta. The Fall of Troy by Daniel van Heil, Private Collection The ensuing slaughter continued throughout … Hecuba his wife, Queen of Troy. Menelaus then persuaded his brother Agamemnon to lead an army against Troy. Les Troyens is Berlioz's most ambitious work, the summation of his entire artistic career, but he did not live to see it performed in its entirety. In respect to this, who started the Trojan War in Greek mythology? The ten-year long Trojan War commenced about 800 B.C., a few hundred years later. The same thing happened with the Ilians (Trojans). When night fell, the Greek soldiers lept from the horse and opened the gates of Troy to their waiting comrades. Linschoten. Dreamhunter. Geography . Leader and hero of the Trojans in the Trojan War. Nationalities were not what they are today. The ancient city of Troy was located in what today is called Turkey, along the western coastline, across the Aegean Sea from Greece. But modern Albinos do falsely claim that the Hellenes of Greece were Albinos. Some thought they ought to hurl it down from the rocks, others thought they should burn it, while others said they ought to dedicate it to Athena. 800 BCE, the inhabitants spoke Aeolic Greek, because those are the people that colonised it. All the great Mycenaean leaders had been gone from their Greek … In myth the ancient ancestors of the Romans are the ancient Trojans, who escaped from the Greek conquest of their city. So, if we agree that the Homeric Epics could have an historical basis, it is very possible that the Trojans were … The Trojans were a foreign people, not of the same stock as their enemies from across the sea, and as regards their 'foreignness', they stand midpoint on the spectrum that extends form the Greeks to to the more exotic allies of the Trojans. They were, like the Athenians, Corinthian, Spartans, Boetians, Thracians, and other city-states part of the Greek world. In reality the ancestors of the Romans were … Ad Honorem. If this is true, the Achaeans and the Trojans were brethren. That the Trojans were originally Greek settlers, does not seem impossible given the location of the city … This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Paskal. They sacked Troy after the Trojans brought the horse inside the city walls. They stationed small bands of warriors by each house. Jun 2012 8,549 Malaysia Aug 5, 2020 #77 SilasMarner said: I believe Hittite records from the late bronze age period recognise Troy as Wilusa - part of what the Hittites described as the Assuwa conferation. 1 year ago. And of course - Who were the Trojans? However, in the poem and perhaps the culture, atrocities were freely endorsed by the Greek higher-ups, including Agamemnon himself. The Greeks won the Trojan War. The Iliad is an epic poem ascribed to the ancient Greek storyteller Homer, which tells the story of the Trojan War and the Greek siege of the city of Troy.The Iliad is believed to have been written in the 8th century BCE; it is a classic piece of literature which is still commonly read today.The Iliad includes a dramatic series of battle scenes as well as many scenes in which the … The only thing that the Trojans and their allies and the Achaians and their allies share are the gods, which is certainly possible given that the names of gods were often used for foreign gods that shared aspects with the Greek gods. level 1. But every city had interests for their own good (don't forget the war between Athens and Sparta) ! The Trojans were Turks. When it was resettled ca. There is no confusion in the demonyms. Explore the family trees of The Trojans and The Greeks in Shakespeare's Troilus and Cressida. And something … This is a great book, and one which I'm glad I have added to my … By the time the Trojans woke up and discovered the terrible truth, Troy was burning. Although this … This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Paskal. However this hypothesis is questionable with the known facts on the Trojans.